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Thursday, Jan. 24, 2002 - 8:26 pm I hate being interrupted. I really hate it. And when I�m interrupted more than once or twice, I generally just shut up because I figure that what I have to say will be ignored even if I do get it out. Because of that, I want to give others, who might be even more timid about sharing their thoughts, a chance to say what�s on their mind.
And, I suppose rule three would be that all are welcome. Regardless as to age, social standing, culture. They do have to be able to speak and understand English, or have a good interpreter.
But yeah, I think that about sums up what I want in a church. I don�t want to be preached at, so I won�t preach at other people. (This diary is evidence of that. For those who want to listen to what I have to say, do so. For those who don�t want to listen, you don�t have to read me.)
I may just have to start a group like that.
*chuckles quietly* You don�t know how serious I am.
Don�t expect to hear about The Church Of Jennifer or anything like that, cause I�m not the focus. God is. And, a little meeting like that could actually be called a �church� by what current churches represent.
I personally believe that the second I say someone can�t be a Christian, I stop being a Christian. I believe that when I tell someone else that their behavior means they can�t possibly be loved by God, I remove myself from the Grace of God.
My rule regarding all who would attend this hypothetical church?
No sex during services or on the grounds. Homosexual? Don�t have sex in church or on the grounds. Heterosexual? Don�t have sex in church or on the grounds.
Why? Because I wouldn�t go to your house and strip down and have sex with my husband while you�re talking. I wouldn�t have sex in your house. It�s just rude.
Would I allow talk about homosexuality in �services�? Sure. Any topic on your mind, we�ll talk about it and apply Biblical principles. Into the Dominant/submissive lifestyle? You�re welcome to discuss that too. Into bestiality? *shudders* I�m not, but I�ll do my best to discuss it with an objective viewpoint.
Christ may have condemned sinners for their sins, but I am not Christ. I am His sister. I am God�s child. I am here to listen and understand, not to condemn.
I personally believe that bestiality is not just disgusting, but wrong. But I won�t stop someone else from believing differently. You�d better not force your beliefs on me or my pet, but I won�t condemn you for what you believe.
Hard to imagine? Possibly. Disgusting to think about? Yes, quite possibly. But again, it is not my job to judge you.
And, while we�re on the subject of things I think are completely and despicably repugnant, would I allow conversation about pedophilia during �services�? You bet I would.
I don�t like pedophilia. I don�t agree with any part of it in any form. That doesn�t mean, however, that to know about it is wrong. That doesn�t mean that someone who is interested in the subject is wrong to be interested in the subject.
I reflect on something that Charles told me a while ago. And I think I have found a place for it in my philosophy. (I don�t know if this is the twist he had in mind... but this works for my life)
I don�t remember his exact words, but this is the gist (I think). If you�re going to teach someone of a different religion, you have to know their religion.
When he first told me that, I didn�t believe him. I accepted his opinion. But now, I�m thinking that he may be more on the money than I realized. He did not tell me, ever, that in order to understand someone else, I have to become that person. That�s what I thought he was telling me at first, though.
Regardless... the point as per discussions of bestiality or pedophilia in a church service... If you can�t talk about it in church, where can you talk about it? If you can�t talk about something which is of interest to you, in church, then that provides a separation between religion and life. I just really believe that if you have to hide something from God... you�re not open to Him. you�re not actually living within the relationship.
Anyway... my digressions are getting worse, it seems.
There are times when I have wanted to talk about certain aspects of sex. But, due to the extremely private, hush-hush, don�t-talk-about-it attitude of both church and family, I grew up with a �knowledge� that sex was bad. And I don�t mean kinky sex. I mean straight laced, vanilla sex.
I grew up with the knowledge that sex was a bad word. And I grew up with a healthy fear of any and all conversations which were truly intimate. With friends, with parents, with acquaintances... I wouldn�t discuss matters of sex. I wouldn�t allow myself to think about it. There was such an overwhelming sense of shame and bad-ness when I thought about anything even remotely sexual.
To this day, I still find it difficult to talk so openly about sex and personal sexual details. Don�t get me wrong, I can flirt and use sexual innuendo with the best of them, but when it comes to ME and things sexual... *shakes her head* It�s often very, very terrifying for me to talk about it.
If I had a church, I would make a point of being willing to discuss anything. Whether I personally liked or enjoyed the activity or not. Whether I had an interest in the activity or not, I would find a way to talk about it.
If you can�t talk, then there�s no where for the confusion to go. If there�s nowhere for the confusion to go... if there�s no new information coming in, you start making choices based on little to no information. And that is when you start to fail.
So, if I were to start a church, would I refuse conversation of any topic? No, I don�t think so. God will listen to me talk about anything, whether it�s societally acceptable or not. So, Why should I tell someone else they can�t talk about what�s on their mind?
I suppose I should add a little qualifier in there... I would allow talk about any topic as long as the talk were tasteful. I would absolutely not allow the church service to turn into a discussion of the best positions for deeper penetration. But I would encourage all questions and thoughts and then I would do my best to find the scriptures to answer those questions.
Like Charles said, the only stupid question is the one you don�t ask.
Anyway, now that this specific entry has reached ten pages and now that it�s almost three hours after I started writing, I think I�m going to bring this to a close. I�ll discuss the whole Saturday/Sunday church thing on another day.
Thank you for hanging in so long. I had fun with this entry. Many thoughts and much music later, I�m doing quite well. *chuckles*
Stay safe, folks.
Peace unto thy hearts.
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